diff --git a/README b/README
index 2da0f96..1e2d4d3 100644
--- a/README
+++ b/README
@@ -2948,6 +2948,12 @@
 		one, specify here. Note that the value must resolve
 		to something your driver can deal with.
 
+- CONFIG_SYS_DDR_RAW_TIMING
+		Get DDR timing information from other than SPD. Common with
+		soldered DDR chips onboard without SPD. DDR raw timing
+		parameters are extracted from datasheet and hard-coded into
+		header files or board specific files.
+
 - CONFIG_SYS_83XX_DDR_USES_CS0
 		Only for 83xx systems. If specified, then DDR should
 		be configured using CS0 and CS1 instead of CS2 and CS3.
diff --git a/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc85xx/cpu.c b/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc85xx/cpu.c
index f863f4a..53f0887 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc85xx/cpu.c
+++ b/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc85xx/cpu.c
@@ -336,7 +336,9 @@
 	}
 #endif
 
-#if defined(CONFIG_SPD_EEPROM) || defined(CONFIG_DDR_SPD)
+#if	defined(CONFIG_SPD_EEPROM)	|| \
+	defined(CONFIG_DDR_SPD)		|| \
+	defined(CONFIG_SYS_DDR_RAW_TIMING)
 	dram_size = fsl_ddr_sdram();
 #else
 	dram_size = fixed_sdram();
diff --git a/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/Makefile b/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/Makefile
index 4a5a785..d1b4c4b 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/Makefile
+++ b/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/Makefile
@@ -12,15 +12,24 @@
 
 COBJS-$(CONFIG_FSL_DDR1)	+= main.o util.o ctrl_regs.o options.o \
 				   lc_common_dimm_params.o
-COBJS-$(CONFIG_FSL_DDR1)	+= ddr1_dimm_params.o
 
 COBJS-$(CONFIG_FSL_DDR2)	+= main.o util.o ctrl_regs.o options.o \
 				   lc_common_dimm_params.o
-COBJS-$(CONFIG_FSL_DDR2)	+= ddr2_dimm_params.o
 
 COBJS-$(CONFIG_FSL_DDR3)	+= main.o util.o ctrl_regs.o options.o \
 				   lc_common_dimm_params.o
+ifdef CONFIG_DDR_SPD
+SPD := y
+endif
+ifdef CONFIG_SPD_EEPROM
+SPD := y
+endif
+ifdef SPD
+COBJS-$(CONFIG_FSL_DDR1)	+= ddr1_dimm_params.o
+COBJS-$(CONFIG_FSL_DDR2)	+= ddr2_dimm_params.o
 COBJS-$(CONFIG_FSL_DDR3)	+= ddr3_dimm_params.o
+endif
+
 
 SRCS	:= $(START:.o=.S) $(SOBJS-y:.o=.S) $(COBJS-y:.o=.c)
 OBJS	:= $(addprefix $(obj),$(SOBJS-y) $(COBJS-y))
diff --git a/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/ddr.h b/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/ddr.h
index 1e866fe..f59aa33 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/ddr.h
+++ b/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/ddr.h
@@ -14,6 +14,7 @@
 
 #include "common_timing_params.h"
 
+#if defined(CONFIG_DDR_SPD) || defined(CONFIG_SPD_EEPROM)
 /*
  * Bind the main DDR setup driver's generic names
  * to this specific DDR technology.
@@ -25,6 +26,7 @@
 {
 	return ddr_compute_dimm_parameters(spd, pdimm, dimm_number);
 }
+#endif
 
 /*
  * Data Structures
@@ -80,4 +82,9 @@
 extern unsigned int mclk_to_picos(unsigned int mclk);
 extern unsigned int get_memory_clk_period_ps(void);
 extern unsigned int picos_to_mclk(unsigned int picos);
+
+/* board specific function */
+int fsl_ddr_get_dimm_params(dimm_params_t *pdimm,
+			unsigned int controller_number,
+			unsigned int dimm_number);
 #endif
diff --git a/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/main.c b/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/main.c
index 62a73dd..3c49fa9 100644
--- a/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/main.c
+++ b/arch/powerpc/cpu/mpc8xxx/ddr/main.c
@@ -325,6 +325,7 @@
 
 	switch (start_step) {
 	case STEP_GET_SPD:
+#if defined(CONFIG_DDR_SPD) || defined(CONFIG_SPD_EEPROM)
 		/* STEP 1:  Gather all DIMM SPD data */
 		for (i = 0; i < CONFIG_NUM_DDR_CONTROLLERS; i++) {
 			fsl_ddr_get_spd(pinfo->spd_installed_dimms[i], i);
@@ -356,6 +357,17 @@
 			}
 		}
 
+#else
+	case STEP_COMPUTE_DIMM_PARMS:
+		for (i = 0; i < CONFIG_NUM_DDR_CONTROLLERS; i++) {
+			for (j = 0; j < CONFIG_DIMM_SLOTS_PER_CTLR; j++) {
+				dimm_params_t *pdimm =
+					&(pinfo->dimm_params[i][j]);
+				fsl_ddr_get_dimm_params(pdimm, i, j);
+			}
+		}
+		debug("Filling dimm parameters from board specific file\n");
+#endif
 	case STEP_COMPUTE_COMMON_PARMS:
 		/*
 		 * STEP 3: Compute a common set of timing parameters